Comments on: 3 reasons why India should move its rural population to cities en mass http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/ Let us convert emotional issues of Indian politics and society into rational discussion Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:59:58 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: chakresh http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-1958 chakresh Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:37:20 +0000 http://promiseofreason.com/?p=47#comment-1958 @kp thanks for comments, have you been to any village in Chhattisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand and even some part of UP. You will understand why I am saying so. Life in slums is still better than those places. Have you ever heard any slumdweller eating his/her own baby, because he/she had lost all food in flood, drought etc. In village, sometimes it happens :( and about my dream of IAS, let us just say, it is only a step for me, not only dream :) see you again @kp
thanks for comments,
have you been to any village in Chhattisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand and even some part of UP. You will understand why I am saying so. Life in slums is still better than those places. Have you ever heard any slumdweller eating his/her own baby, because he/she had lost all food in flood, drought etc.
In village, sometimes it happens :(

and about my dream of IAS, let us just say, it is only a step for me, not only dream :)
see you again

]]> By: kp http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-1948 kp Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:16:31 +0000 http://promiseofreason.com/?p=47#comment-1948 frankly I seriously PRAY to god people like you never get through civil services - which I think is your only dream in life. Guys like you who think they are too smart do more damage than politicians. Moving people en-masse to the cities - dude do you even know what you are saying !! I mean I want to start writing a reply but what you said is so stupid that I don't know where to start. Do you know what problems slum-dwellers are facing in the cities ? It is WORSE than villages. Do you know cities like Delhi are crumbling under their own weights and transport, sewage and food-security is just imploding under the population burden already. anyways, there is so much to say that suddenly I feel it is pointless talking any more... I think you should worry more about your CPI and your courses... leave the national issues to people who have better sense than you. frankly I seriously PRAY to god people like you never get through civil services – which I think is your only dream in life. Guys like you who think they are too smart do more damage than politicians. Moving people en-masse to the cities – dude do you even know what you are saying !! I mean I want to start writing a reply but what you said is so stupid that I don’t know where to start. Do you know what problems slum-dwellers are facing in the cities ? It is WORSE than villages. Do you know cities like Delhi are crumbling under their own weights and transport, sewage and food-security is just imploding under the population burden already. anyways, there is so much to say that suddenly I feel it is pointless talking any more…
I think you should worry more about your CPI and your courses… leave the national issues to people who have better sense than you.

]]> By: Abhishek Shukla http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Abhishek Shukla Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:45:05 +0000 http://promiseofreason.com/?p=47#comment-35 Some facts about small scale industries of India: •It comprise 40% of total industrial output of India •It shares 35% in total export of India •It employs 17 million people in 3.2 million industrial units •The importers are mostly developed nations ex. Indian leather products are imported by Italy (still some “Indians” doubt quality of these products) •The modern small scale industries are : oGlass and ceramics oLeather products oPaper products oPlastic products oChemical products and believe me its just tip of iceberg (god knows why still for some people “small scale industry = khadi ashram”) I had gone through these details only to show the potential of small scale industries. Still if any one has any doubt he/she can visit http://www.laghu-udyog.com/ (official site by government of India). I am not saying that India should not go for big industries, off course we also need to be master in cutting edge technology so that we can lead in world but only focusing on them is simply not “economically” good for India. Again I will say I strongly oppose the vary idea of moving rural population in mass in cities because: •Our cities can not handle this migration •This will lead to kind of development of nation in patches(major cities) but I am instead we need decentralized industrial expansion to make sure development gives benefit to one who needs it most •This does not support equitable distribution of income •Most importantly because we don’t need this P.S. – by taking name of some renowned personality to satisfy some political ego is not good, who the hell cares who one gives which model, if it is good for country then should be applied and if not good then definitely be discarded, it’s binary. Some facts about small scale industries of India:
•It comprise 40% of total industrial output of India
•It shares 35% in total export of India
•It employs 17 million people in 3.2 million industrial units
•The importers are mostly developed nations ex. Indian leather products are imported by Italy (still some “Indians” doubt quality of these products)
•The modern small scale industries are :
oGlass and ceramics
oLeather products
oPaper products
oPlastic products
oChemical products and believe me its just tip of iceberg (god knows why still for some people “small scale industry = khadi ashram”)

I had gone through these details only to show the potential of small scale industries. Still if any one has any doubt he/she can visit http://www.laghu-udyog.com/ (official site by government of India).

I am not saying that India should not go for big industries, off course we also need to be master in cutting edge technology so that we can lead in world but only focusing on them is simply not “economically” good for India.

Again I will say I strongly oppose the vary idea of moving rural population in mass in cities because:
•Our cities can not handle this migration
•This will lead to kind of development of nation in patches(major cities) but I am instead we need decentralized industrial expansion to make sure development gives benefit to one who needs it most
•This does not support equitable distribution of income
•Most importantly because we don’t need this

P.S. – by taking name of some renowned personality to satisfy some political ego is not good, who the hell cares who one gives which model, if it is good for country then should be applied and if not good then definitely be discarded, it’s binary.

]]> By: chakresh http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-34 chakresh Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:21:17 +0000 http://promiseofreason.com/?p=47#comment-34 >> "we need to provide major infrastructure dose to 2 tier and 3 tier cities as they would be hot spot of our economic transformation and they can become back offices of service sector." That is what I meant by new temples of India, Though people are smart enough to think for themselves but providing incentives, and mobilizing them should be done by government. Also the model of small home side industry has not worked, because they cannot provide the competition in market. Investing in that fool's errand will cost us dearly with no good return. I know, it is hard to accept that model suggested by Mahatma Gandhi is not working. But look around you, does anyone want to wear khadi ashram cloths anymore? If we insist on providing help to those small industries, we shall be wasting money and on the other hand there are better options available by employing cutting edge technology in big industries. I am not opposed to small industries, but only if it is not compromising with the quality >> “we need to provide major infrastructure dose to 2 tier and 3 tier cities as they would be hot spot of our economic transformation and they can become back offices of service sector.”

That is what I meant by new temples of India,
Though people are smart enough to think for themselves but providing incentives, and mobilizing them should be done by government. Also the model of small home side industry has not worked, because they cannot provide the competition in market. Investing in that fool’s errand will cost us dearly with no good return. I know, it is hard to accept that model suggested by Mahatma Gandhi is not working. But look around you, does anyone want to wear khadi ashram cloths anymore? If we insist on providing help to those small industries, we shall be wasting money and on the other hand there are better options available by employing cutting edge technology in big industries. I am not opposed to small industries, but only if it is not compromising with the quality

]]> By: Abhishek Shukla http://promiseofreason.com/3-reasons-why-india-should-move-its-rural-population-to-cities-en-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Abhishek Shukla Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:06:25 +0000 http://promiseofreason.com/?p=47#comment-33 yes, in current scenario we need to find solutions so that we shouldn't have to give additional support to agriculture sector and best solution is to release pressure from agriculture land(mind you i am not suggesting mass migration but to make opportunities so that rural population doesn't have to rely only on cultivation).Frankly speaking Indian cities are overloaded they can only sustain linear increment in population, any sort of mass migration will crumble them, we need to provide major infrastructure dose to 2 tier and 3 tier cities as they would be hot spot of our economic transformation and they can become back offices of service sector. As I mentioned above there should be emphasis on how rural areas can also be used for other means of living than cultivation, if we provide proper governance without corruption to every village then small scale industries can be spawned but the basic requirement is to make sure there should be proper connectivity (right now roads and then information connectivity), power supply and security. We need to expand our infrastructure not to make it cities centric, it may look lucrative that we should make our cities super glamorous and make them maximum cities but in long run it will not be helpful and there is major fear that if doesn’t make our manpower educated enough and blindly persuade them for migration then it will result in increase of crime, so my thought is that today people are smart enough to know if they have caliber then they should move to big cities for opportunities these are people of small town and which is success story of today’s India and for rest let there own back home (village and small town) have enough opportunity for them. yes, in current scenario we need to find solutions so that we shouldn’t have to give additional support to agriculture sector and best solution is to release pressure from agriculture land(mind you i am not suggesting mass migration but to make opportunities so that rural population doesn’t have to rely only on cultivation).Frankly speaking Indian cities are overloaded they can only sustain linear increment in population, any sort of mass migration will crumble them, we need to provide major infrastructure dose to 2 tier and 3 tier cities as they would be hot spot of our economic transformation and they can become back offices of service sector. As I mentioned above there should be emphasis on how rural areas can also be used for other means of living than cultivation, if we provide proper governance without corruption to every village then small scale industries can be spawned but the basic requirement is to make sure there should be proper connectivity (right now roads and then information connectivity), power supply and security. We need to expand our infrastructure not to make it cities centric, it may look lucrative that we should make our cities super glamorous and make them maximum cities but in long run it will not be helpful and there is major fear that if doesn’t make our manpower educated enough and blindly persuade them for migration then it will result in increase of crime, so my thought is that today people are smart enough to know if they have caliber then they should move to big cities for opportunities these are people of small town and which is success story of today’s India and for rest let there own back home (village and small town) have enough opportunity for them.

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