by Chakresh Mishra
May 16, 2009Hopes are shattered and nightmares prevailed, UPA 250, NDA 160 : Share Your Views
So, the results are out and it is exact opposite to what this blog predicted. It is a major win for congress, in every state and every part of country. All other major alliances are decisively defeated. Congress says it is a vote for development and for its crown prince Rahul Gandhi. He did revive congress in UP as promised.
Still my biggest sympathy is with BJP, which is the party I voted for. A nationalist party. It is a loss of face for BJP.
But friends, There are times in history of a nation when all seem lost and looks like wrong forces have won the final battle. But dear friends, it is just a process, which goes on and on. 5 years may be significant time period in life of a man, but in life of a nation (that too a nation like India) is just a flickr of eye.
The time after defeat is not for grief and blame-game. It is the time to introspect and start preparing to come out as winner in next battle.
Though hopes are shattered and nightmares are prevailing, the dawn will surely come. It is not the first black day of Indian history, we survived and fought back. Let us do that again.
Tell us what do you feel, comment!
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May 31st, 2009 at 10:04 PM
I foresee An Alliance of JD(U)-Congress and LJSP for 2010 Bihar Assembly Elections.
This Would Sound Alarm for BJP.
BJP Leaders in Bihar should Take Note of This and Seriously Start Preparing to Fight The Elections Independently from Now on.
For Jharkhand too, BJP Should Not remain Complacent and BringBack Babulal Marandi into BJP’s Fold.
BJP though has Won 8 out of 14 Lok Sabha Seats in Jharkhand, BJP Polled Only 27 % of Popular Vote.Therefore, BJP should Make sure that They would Poll over 35% in Jharkhand as Congress-JMM-LJSP-JD(U) combine has A Good Percentage of around 32% in Jharkhand.
May 30th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I am from TN and recently casted my vote in Pollachi in favour of AIADMK. As expected ,ADMK won the seat.I didn’t see any election fraud as most of the seats the results were as expected.In every election ,there are a few seats where the results might be differnt from what media predicts. It happened in 1998 and 1999 elections in TN.Just by seeing Vaiko’s loss ,don’t label entire TN election was a fraud.
May 25th, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Mr. Satish, Vaiko’s Loss Was A Shocker.
It was a clear Vengeance shown by the karunanidhi family which conducted the elections in TN.
People Expressing Shock over Vaiko’s Defeat has Nothing to do with being Pro BJP or otherwise.
It just reflects the Death of Democracy and A Mockery of Electoral Process in TamilNadu.
May 25th, 2009 at 9:09 AM
Hi Satish,
BJP should not have any relation with Amma.BJP should go alone in TN and it may have alliance for only 10 seats with small parties. If BJP wants to have relation with Amma, it should be 50%-50% seats. BJP has to build base in TN. I am telling, If BJP is able to get 20% votes in 20 seats of TN, then after the death of Karunanidhi, lot of strong leaders of DMK and AIADMK may join BJP. It happens in politics.
1. BJP should have realiable alliance or oppourchunistic( not the cost of base)
2. Amma can not survive without the help of BJP.
3. Naidu can not survive without the help of BJP.
4. Mamata can not survive without the help of BJP.
BJP will have to drop jay ho ammma, jay ho chandrababu, jay ho Mamta,
May 24th, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Instead of finding out stupid reasons ,BJP leaders and cadres need to work hard to expand its base .Otherwise the party will never been in power again….Some BJP supporters are so sad about Vaiko’s loss in TN.(even Vaiko and his party accepted the defeat) .I am more worried and upset about the loss in Kanyakumari where even the Mallu Hindu voters voted to DMK over BJP and CPM. The opportunistic opposition alliance made things worse for ADMK. BJP needs to try hard to build a bridge with ADMK to win a few seats in TN.Regarding the election allegations ,there were serious allegations against reddy brothers and their involvement in the outcome of Bellary seat as every one knows his sister Santhi actually lost the election by big margin.
May 24th, 2009 at 10:16 AM
@ Nick,
I completely agree nick that something was wrong on the Electronic Voting Machine… Ofcourse, the Naveen chawla, he is not a Election commission head, he is a congress person…In Tamilnadu, the voting machine was programmed in such a way that if some one clicks the double leaf symbol(AIADMK) the beep sound and Light came from raising Sun symbol (DMK)… Even Technology wise developed Countries like USA,UK were still followed the paper ballot system while we practice Electronicaly… Another important fact is that after introducing the EVM in Tamilnadu, AIADMK never won the election…
May 24th, 2009 at 9:48 AM
@Raj,
I accept raj that BJP would definitely work hard to start the innings in Tamilnadu.. When I discuss with the peoples in the organization, educated peoples they prefer BJP than congress, DMK, AIADMK. Educated youths prefer arun jaitley,Yaswath, apart from PRO-RSS leaders like modi etc… Definitely Tamilndu needs a good leader, star icon for the development of party. Also they should come forward to work for the peoples… I don’t want the rapid development… They should create a strong vote base in Kanyakumari, Coimbatore, Trichy where the BJP has the potential to develop..
May 24th, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Hi Raj,
In Orissa, BJP is strong. I will say, It was a bad luck of BJP in Orissa, BJP has not got any seats. If BJP works hard the way i think definitely BJP will get 5 to 10 seats in Orissa.
I did B.E from M.N.R Allahabad( In my hostel i met M.M. Joshi). After that i did one year job in Calcutta. After that i did M.Tech from I.I.T Kharagpur. Presently working as Senior Software Engg.( USA based software MNC) in South Chennai(L. Ganeshan). Before that i did worked in Hyd(USA based software MNC ). Before that i was in Gurgaon(USA based software MNC) and Noida(France based software MNC).
BJP is better than Congress in three aspect.
1. Economic aspects
2. Unity of Country
3. Security of Country
I can not explain it, becuase it is big topic.
Advani’s achievement
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1. Advani has given democracy(congress was using 356 and now congress can not use 356 easily because of BJP) to India.
2. He( supported Atal Bihari as PM, but he faced all the challenges) is real well wisher of party.
3. Advani( if muslims population will go more than hindus, division of India is possible,not worry about muslims votes,brought pota, opposed 370, 370 is the Kasmir’s problem) has given security to country.
4. Advani(Infrastructure–> River linking, ports, NHs etc., Power Plants, Railways, Airports) has given developement to country.
5. He is very bold and politically strong( River linking is not easy plan, there is need of very strong political desire,Advani is having that desire, explosion of Neuclear blast)
Till now india has not got leader like Advani(better than Atal Bihari). This person has got this level from nothing. This is the great achievement of Advani.
Rahul’s achievement is, he is son of former PM and belongs to Gandhi’s family. No achievements. If any other person gets this status, he can do same thing or may be better than Rahul. Bacause of Rahul there is unity in Congress. Congress has seen very bad time without Gandhi’s family). No leader in congress will oppose Rahul Gandhi.
To create organisation like congress is not simple job. Advani(created BJP) has done it. I think, India will never get person like Advani in future.
May 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Yes Ritesh, But, BJP Polled 17% of Popular Vote in Orissa without any Alliance.
BJP should create A Strong Base Particularly in the tribal belt of Orissa.
In AP, BJP Should Hand over to New Young And Dynamic Faces Like Kishan Reddy and give retirement to Old War Horses.
In TamilNadu, BJP Should Really Work Hard.
Make Thirunavukkarasar as The Main Face of BJP in TN.
He has a good Knowledge of Tamil Voters.
Ask Him to contest for 2011 TN Assembly.
One should start working for Assembly elections now itself.
May 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Hi,
Top 40 leaders of BJP should go in each and every constituency of TN, should have protest against DMK.
Tamils are being killed in Srilanka and he is worry about own family members portfolio.
1. South Chennai — Sushma
2. North Chennai — Arun
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40. Pondicherry—- Yashwant Sinha
That way BJP can create own base in TN. BJP should not do
Jay Ho Amma. and should go alone in TN. It will make morale
up for state BJP leaders and local workers.
May 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Hi,
Top 40 leaders of BJP should go in each and every constituency of TN, should have protest against DMK.
Tamils are being killed in Srilanka and he is worry about own family members portfolio.
1. South Channai — Sushma
2. North Channai — Arun
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–
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40. Pondicherry—- Yashwant Sinha
That way BJP can create own base in TN. BJP should not do
Jay Ho Amma. and should go alone in TN. It will make morale
up for state BJP leaders and local workers.
May 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Hi,
Haryana—- Good work by congress ( Small state and near to Delhi)
Delhi—-Good work by congress( Small state and capital)
Maharashtra—- Raj Tahkre
Rajasthan— Inner fighting in BJP
Uttrakhand — Inner fighting in BJP
UP — Luck is bad and organisation is weak
May 23rd, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Hi,
Haryana—- Good work by congress
Delhi—-Good work by congress
Maharashtra—- Raj Tahkre
Rajasthan— Inner fighting in BJP
Uttrakhand — Inner fighting in BJP
UP — Luck is bad and organisation is weak
May 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Hi Raja,
You should learn basics of politics. What is fundamental principle of politics,
1. Never compromise with your base.
2. Have a permanent alliance or permanent enemity.
BJP is weak in TN,WB and AP because of Jay ho amma, Jay ho mamta, jay ho chandra babu naidu.
These parities broke relation with BJP in 2004. From 2004 to 2009 BJP was doing only “Jay ho amma, Jay ho mamta, jay ho naidu”. Why was BJP doing. These parties can not survive without the help of BJP and Congress.
In Orissa BJP did not do anything to create storng base. To have base you have to criticize to Naveen. Congress is very eak in Orissa. Next election he(Naveen) can not win.
Nitish will be fool of first order if he snaps relation with BJP. One day Congress will dump him. BJP will never dump him. There is only one stare where Congress is weak,that is Bihar.If Nitish and Mulayam goes with Cogress,In next election congress will win 350 seats all over the India. After 2014 election congress will not listen own alliance’s demand.
May 23rd, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Hi,
BJP should understand basic of politics, then BJP can do anything. Congress has understood basic of politics( went alone in Bihar and UP). I understand BJP’s problem, it is last election of Advani( India has never produced leader like Advani, those who understand basic of politics).
1. Never compromise with base in politics. BJP has compromised base in WB,TN and AP. If alliace partner is very realiable then compromise with base up to a limit. BJP was very strong in 1998 in WB,TN and AP.
May 23rd, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Guys,
There is a major churning going on in the BJP, which may eventually split the party. It appears moderate leaders like Arun Jaitley, Gopinath Munde, Yashwant Sinha, Mukhtar Naqvi, Venkiah Naidu are now openly advocating a “secular shift”. Old timers like M.M Joshi are advocating a more hardline approach. Modi/Varun are also being viewed as a liability. This time the churning is going not only within BJP but also the RSS – thus increasing the possibility of a split. After all it is the RSS glue which binds the party (just like the Gandhi family glue in INC) and if the glue starts withering away, the split would occur inevitably.
The real danger of BJP going the Janata Dal way and the country returning to unipolar politics is haunting the party. BJP has lost 4% vote share over 2004 even after contesting 50-60 more seats; falling to 18% this time – at a time when anti incumbency should have worked in its favour. Other than Karnataka, Jharkhand, and HP, BJP has lost voteshare in ALL OTHER STATES. In Bihar, BJP managed to increase its voteshare by a measly 0.9% even though muslims and OBCs were solidly behind NDA.
On the contrast, INC has gained every where including the states where INC/UPA is ruling viz Haryana, Delhi, Maharashtra, AP, TN, Delhi, Rajasthan, Assam, as well as in opposition ruled states like Gujarat, MP, WB, Kerela, UP, Bihar etc etc. In fact INC has increased its share by 2.2% to 28.9% this time.
The biggest shock is from UP where the voteshare of INC shot up to 18.7% whereas BJP has plummeted to 17.2%. Based on ground reports BJP leaders fear that INC may well be on the road to power in this state by 2012. In Bihar INC increased its share to 10.7% from 4.2% in 2004. UP is no mean achievement of INC, which even Rajiv Gandhi could not achieve in 1989.
2009 results have shown that BJP is fast losing appeal in ALL states. In 1998, BJP had won 18.5% of the voted in AP, whereas it has gone down to just 4.12% in 2009. Its voteshare went down drastically in TN, Kerela, Orissa, WB also thus dashing its hopes to grow in these states on its own. In fact had GJM not supported BJP in WB (Darjeeling seat) the share would have gone down further.
In the northern states of Haryana, Delhi, Uttarakhand, Rajasthan BJP lost by huge margins.
The urban voter who was the mainstay of BJP is totally disenchanted with the party. UPA has swept ALL urban areas in the length and breadth of the country. Even in Bangalore, the victory margin of BJP has reduced to a large extent. These leaders feel that it was not the muslim consolidation behind INC but the urban / rural disenchantment with BJP, which has led to the debacle. Most of these leaders feel that there was a silent undercurrent for the UPA cutting across all sections of the society. No wonder NDA constituents like JD(U), Akali and RLD are blaming BJP for the debacle.
I have got ground reports that JD(U) is preaparing a road map for coming out of NDA and allying with UPA by August, 2009. The difference in voteshare of the 2 national parties in Bihar is only 2.8%; added to the fact that RJD/LJP would never align with BJP. A JD(U)-INC alliance would get around 37-40% of the voteshare resulting in a landslide for the alliance.
What the BJP moderate faction fears is that BJP/NDA would face the brunt of anti incumbency during the state elections of 2010-2013. Further if INC manages to win UP in 2012 and ally with JD(U) in Bihar, they can very well reach the 272 mark on its own in 2014. Success of Navin Patnaik has also acted as a catalyst.
One of the moderate leaders in the party had pointed out that instead of criticizing the media, it would be prudent to carry out a self introspection. After all it was the media which had backed the party even after the Babri Masjid demolition, Mumbai riots and had put the entire blame on the INC, which then ruled both at the Centre and Maharashtra. Media was also partly responsible for the march of the BJP to power from 1996 to 1998/99, when it was aggressively reporting on the BJP ascendance and INC decline. Success of LKA’s Rath Yatra in 1989 was also primarily due to the mainstream media. This had also attracted the youth voters in large numbers during that time and it became clearly the favorite party of the urban areas.
Some of the RSS leaders too feel that RSS has to reinvent itself to attract the youth and the lower sections of the society. It has also the shed the “anti-minority” tag. For achieving this, it may have to reign in the VHP and Bajrang Dal. They too feel that inclusive politics is the need of the hour.
The aam aadmi sees the performance of the government not though the leaders but on the ground level delivery systems. Similarly the acceptance of the BJP/RSS would increase only if the ground level cadres and local/panchayat leaders are acceptable. Even know the ground level cadres and local/panchayat leaders make inflammatory speeches during elections, which turn off voters. Thus, even though the leadership of BJP/RSS try to keep hindutva on back burner, it is the local leaders drive off voters unknowingly. Just when the nation started to slowly forget the Gujarat riots, incidents like Kandhamal riots, Karnataka anti-christian riots, Varun hate speeches rekindle the fires.
INC had also played a masterstroke by withdrawing tickets to Tytler and Sajjan Kumar, whereas BJP continued to give tickets to the Kandhamal riot accused, thus turning of urban voters. A small shoe throwing incident showed how these fires can be rekindled by a small spark, which BJP could not foresee.
Issues like Telengana, Gorkhaland also do not bring votes. Instead of pointing out failures of the AP and TN governments, BJP was harping on the Telengana and Sethu Samudram issues; which the aam aadmi perceived as “divisive”. This is even after knowing very well the UPA had put the Sethu Samudram project on the back burner.
The moderate leaders of BJP/RSS feels that unless they adopts a right-centric approach, and induct new faces, which appeal to the youth, it is a matter of time when the tally party goes down to 2 digits. Youth would be attracted to the party only if hardliners tone down their approach. If BJP/RSS does not reinvent itself with the times, the split in the party is inevitable.
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:17 AM
lk we have a right to know that our votes are not tampered with and investigation of evm procedure?So what is your problem?
lk,is purohit convicted already?In which court?
this is how stupid indians are.They have no respect for the institution of law and courts and innocent till proven guilty.
So u convict purohit without evidence wbut you have no problem proclaiming congress innocence despite its past record of lack of development.Congress corrupted governors in jharkand,bihar,goa,ntr-1984,emergency,swiss banks deliberately chose cec and qureshi and prez patil for 2009 and hire media for propaganda.
Yet purohit is guilty and worse than afzal and kasab.Afzal is indian and not paki and congress evms are tamper proof
and collusion between upa cms and cec is ruled out.
cutting votes is a different issue even raj thakeray and chiranjeev and vijaykanth did it .point is congress knew they were not winning till last moment so they had to win and their efforts landed them at 258 which is better than all exit polls except congress owned ndtv and ibn which changed them at last moment.
atleast get your facts right before becoming wiser than a supreme court judge and knowing everything about evms.Afzal is not a pakistani.
India has no hope with stupid yet confident people like u.
Even vishawanath anand has humility.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:12 PM
In Orissa too, BJP has got about 17% of Popular Vote this time.Therefore BJP is actually NOT Weak in Orissa.